tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post3505477847853195576..comments2023-05-10T04:59:50.548-06:00Comments on FOR THE AUTHOR: DIABOLICAL CONNECTIONSBONNIEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14164178709172154856noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-72668637490556540462008-03-20T03:56:00.000-06:002008-03-20T03:56:00.000-06:00Thanks for using my "Evolution of Consciousness," ...Thanks for using my "Evolution of Consciousness," video. I appreciate it. I know we may differ on this view quite drastically, but you actually portrayed a wonderfully comprehensive description of the Integral Movement, Spiral Dynamics and evolutionary consciousness in general. Thankyou for that.<BR/><BR/>peace, being<BR/><BR/>shaman sunJeremy D Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14668249350136883441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-19073735792094314632007-12-12T13:18:00.000-06:002007-12-12T13:18:00.000-06:00I agree about Word of God. They were very narrow ...I agree about Word of God. They were very narrow in their view. They even thought that only people in their group were saved! <BR/><BR/>desmidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-4533437608398259232007-12-12T02:48:00.000-06:002007-12-12T02:48:00.000-06:00Desmid, in an effort to understand where you are c...Desmid, in an effort to understand where you are coming from on this issue I did some research on the "Word of God" Community you speak of and found out that it is charismatic and ecumenical in nature. You say that you were "baptized in the Spirit" and continue to speak in tongues. I hope you are aware that there are MANY who speak in tongues who have no knowledge of Jesus. Hindus and animists also speak with other tongues, but this does not mean that they have faith in Christ. For further study I suggest that you go to http://www.discernment.org/articles/whyweno.htm and read the article written there by someone who was involved with the "Word of God Community” and the reasons they left the movement, especially why they no longer speak in tongues. I think you might find it quite interesting.<BR/><BR/>In your comment, you make no mention of ever coming to the cross of Christ in humility and repentance to accept God's gift of salvation. This is the way the Bible says we become God's children. I urge you to examine yourself to see if you are truly in the faith.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Ken Wilber, I wonder if you have ever visited his website at www.integralinstitute.org. Wilber is a follower of New Age occultic practices and Bhuddism. You cannot be a "Christian Bhuddist" or a "Christian New Ager". There is only one God, and that is the God of the Bible. Ken is into the "human potential" movement, and denies the reality of the power of sin and its consequences. His teaching is unbiblical. <BR/><BR/>The Jesus of the Bible would never have recommended following the spiritual teachings of someone who is into these things. Although Jesus spent time with many people of various spiritual backgrounds, He did not follow their teachings or encourage His followers to do so. In fact, he frequently rebuked spiritual teachers who were not in line with Scripture and were drawing people away from the truth that is only found in Him. Just because Wilber is a kind and generous person that does not mean we should follow his spiritual teachings. This does not necessarily qualify him to be a good teacher. His entire set of teachings have their foundation in something contrary to God's Word, so how can he be trusted? I suggest you examine his spiritual teachings against the truth of God's Word. Also, experiences (such as speaking in tongues or other physical manifestations) should never be the barometer by which we measure our faith as they are unreliable. You can never go wrong by learning from the ultimate source of truth, God's complete revelation of Himself, the written Word of God which we have with us here today. Our spiritual foundation is to be built on it, not our experiences.<BR/><BR/>I also suggest you read my blog entitled SO, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? which explains what biblical meditation is in contrast to contemplative meditation.<BR/><BR/>I hope that what you are really seeking is the truth. If you are, call out to God with a humble heart and ask Him to reveal it to you - He will!BONNIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14164178709172154856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-61137313159697922472007-12-11T15:50:00.000-06:002007-12-11T15:50:00.000-06:00Bonnie,Thank you for posting my comment. I wonder...Bonnie,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for posting my comment. I wondered if you would do so after I submitted it. I hope you will likewise post this one. <BR/><BR/>I was baptized in the Spirit in 1985 through an experience with a Life in the Spirit seminar run by the Word of God community in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I have spoken in tongues from that day on and continue to enjoy fellowship with other good Christians. I praise God as my Creator and Jesus as my Saviour and I hope to do nothing that would offend The Lord.<BR/><BR/>My interest in Ken Wilber dates back 20 years. I was on my way to a renewal event and a friend told me how Ken Wilber said, in his new book (at the time,) that a person was like swiss cheese - full of holes. And that holiness in one area didn't necessarily mean that the person was holy through and through. He also told me about some ideas Wilber had about therapy that I found useful, such as that prayer would help with some issues, but that if (for example) you need to lose weight, that watching your diet would also be important (along with prayer). This seems like common sense I know but it struck me as revelation at the time. <BR/><BR/>I wish you could consider the idea that there might be some truth to Wilber's message. My reading of your blog suggests that you haven't understood his message but are reacting against some ideas that aren't his. And I think that's a shame.<BR/><BR/>Wilber may not be perfect but what human author is? He sheds a wondrous light on the human condition. He is totally against the relativism that plagues our times. He supports moral behavior, love, service, and truth. He is kind and generous towards others and works hard to make the world a better place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-74394997253957341632007-12-11T13:04:00.000-06:002007-12-11T13:04:00.000-06:00From the tone of your comment, it appears that you...From the tone of your comment, it appears that you are in favor of Beck and Wilber's work. If you read my blog carefully you would have noticed that I am not. Unfortunately, the best of their works is filthy rags before the Lord of the Bible. His salvation is through the atoning work of the cross on which he paid the debt for our sin, not through evolution to a higher state of consciousness for the betterment of this planet. The Bible says that the earth will melt away with fervent heat.<BR/><BR/>2 Peter 3:10-12 <BR/>"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,<BR/>Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"<BR/><BR/>Eternity is a long time to be apart from the Christ of the Bible who can deliver from the consequences of our sinful fallen nature. If you seek the truth, I urge you to call out to the God of the Bible to reveal Himself to you, and to begin to study His Word intently with an open and humble heart.BONNIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14164178709172154856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-14167510990634724192007-12-11T11:07:00.000-06:002007-12-11T11:07:00.000-06:00Thanks for this great compilation of the best of W...Thanks for this great compilation of the best of Wilber and Beck. Their work gives me hope that we can work through this difficult period and evolve into the fuller potential that the Lord is calling us towards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-58846781432572140842007-12-11T09:35:00.000-06:002007-12-11T09:35:00.000-06:00Fine work. Thanks for taking the time to put this ...Fine work. Thanks for taking the time to put this together and warning others<BR/><BR/>great site too!<BR/><BR/>-Kenny<BR/>www.thinkerup.blogspot.com<BR/>www.families-r-first.comkennyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341649854487763079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-86025558356994967442007-12-11T06:58:00.000-06:002007-12-11T06:58:00.000-06:00Bonnie,Thank you for all your effort in revealing ...Bonnie,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for all your effort in revealing this alarming matrix.<BR/><BR/>JimWatcher's Lamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09972106805853555453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241822594632050826.post-36890879220226267492007-12-10T23:59:00.000-06:002007-12-10T23:59:00.000-06:00It is hard to believe that the MB seminary in Fres...It is hard to believe that the MB seminary in Fresno would say its students who take this course "must be willing to try a variety of spiritual practices", but there it is on the course outline-labyrinth prayer and all. <BR/><BR/>Likely the devil is laughing at this all, while God is probably grieving and angry as Christians attempt to use pagan methods to reach a holy God. Let us not forget that when Nadab and Abihu offered strange fire to God, he killed them. God is a holy God, and it seems many people these days are lacking a proper fear of a jealous and holy God.<BR/><BR/> Pray that the Holy Spirit would convict those participating in this and that they would repent. <BR/><BR/>I can hardly believe what I am seeing going on in so many of the "Bible" schools and churches these days. I believe Jesus is going to return very very soon. Let us be sure we are awake and ready when He does come.Jennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294835382925359078noreply@blogger.com